Karol Ruth Silverstein on Drawing From Personal Experiences for Fiction

Inspiration is a funny thing. It can come to us like a lightning bolt, through the lyrics of a song, or in the fog of a dream. Ask any writer where their stories come from and you’ll get a myriad of answers, and in that vein I created the WHAT (What the Hell Are you Thinking?) interview. Always including in the WHAT is one random question to really dig down into the interviewees mind, and probably supply some illumination into my own as well.

Today's guest for the WHAT is Karol Ruth Silverstein, author of Cursed, releasing 6/25/19, which  is loosely drawn from her experiences following being diagnosed with a chronic illness at the age of thirteen.

Ideas for our books can come from just about anywhere, and sometimes even we can’t pinpoint exactly how or why. Did you have a specific origin point for your book?

I did. It all started with a suggestion from a screenwriting mentor, Holly Goldberg Sloan, way back in the early 90s. I have an obvious/visible disability, so it’s very natural for people to wonder about that when they meet me. As Holly and I were first getting to know each other, I told her about being diagnosed with a painful chronic illness at thirteen and what a struggle it was to navigate that drastic shift in my reality, especially in the beginning. She encouraged me to write about that experience, but I was resistant for a variety of reasons—the most significant of which was that I wasn’t sure how to tell the story in a way that was authentic to my experience. Much of what I’d seen and read involving sick kids seemed to adhere to some unwritten rule that said these characters needed to be indefatigable little soldiers whose bravery and pluck inspired everyone around them. That definitely wasn’t me!

It wasn’t until years later, while doing an exercise in a writing workshop, that I discovered the voice of my main character Ricky (short for Erica). She was snarky, self-absorbed, terrified and pissed off—which was basically how I felt when I was first diagnosed. With Ricky, I’d finally found my way in.

Once the original concept existed, how did you build a plot around it?

I must confess: despite being a total “plotser,” with Cursed I just wrote whatever scene came to my mind, whatever needed or wanted to be written at that moment. I wrote the whole novel out of sequence, with no outline/treatment beyond knowing who my main character was, what had happened to her and how she felt about it and that the story took place during the school year. It was utter and complete MADNESS! Plus, it took FOREVER. My advice: don’t do this! Unless you must, unless you’re writing something that demands to written this way for whatever reasons. Then—have at it.

After I’d written hundreds of scenes, I figured I’d better start thinking about plot. Coming from a screenwriting background, I had a basic sense of how my character’s journey should proceed. I looked at all of my scenes and began rearranging them so that the story slowly started to make sense and then I made notes in the manuscript where bridges were needed between scenes. Eventually I had a linear plot, but I still had a lot of work to do!

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Have you ever had the plot firmly in place, only to find it changing as the story moved from your mind to paper?

I’ve definitely experienced this between drafts in many other projects, if not between head and computer. In one of my screenplays, I decided to add a completely new, surprise/twist ending a few drafts in. Suddenly, I was writing The Sixth Sense and had to go back through the script and put in little clues and Easter eggs—without tipping my hat too much—so that when the twist came at the end, it made sense.

In Cursed, lots of plot points changed after I got my first editorial letter, if not the overall plot itself. For one, my editor had me age my main character up, from thirteen to fourteen. That ended up having a ripple effect on the whole story—and actually changed what my character ultimately wanted and needed too. Many scenes were rearranged, consolidated, trimmed or deleted. New scenes were added. I ended up being really happy with many of the changes.

Do story ideas come to you often, or is fresh material hard to come by?

Yes and no. Some stories have popped into my head nearly fully formed, particularly ideas for picture book manuscripts. (Perfecting a picture book manuscript is a whole different story though). But in addition to being a “ploster,” I’m also a reviser. So while I have some writer friends who have dozens of first drafts sitting on their computers, I tend to have a smaller volume of projects but they’ve all been revised numerous times. Does that indicate a lack of new ideas or a dedication to my works-already-in-progress? I’m not sure. I do remember doing a writing exercise once where the task was to write down fifty story ideas. I think I used every story idea I’d ever had, however vague, and still only got about half way there!

How do you choose which story to write next, if you’ve got more than one percolating?

There are always lots of stories percolating in my brain, and I generally work on multiple projects at once. It’s just how I roll. If I get stuck or feel uninspired on one, I can shift focus to another while a few of my brain cells continue to work on the issue with the first project.

Now that my novel has moved onto the copyediting phase, what I work on next has to do with my goal of being on submission with one or two projects by the end of the year. I discussed this goal with my agent, and we decided I should focus on a picture book of mine that needs a little polishing. So I’ll be working on that manuscript and then will move on to revising another novel (that, alas, need a good bit more that a polish). But I love revising, remember? Writing a screenplay adaptation of my novel is also in my near future—in case Hollywood comes calling!

I usually have at least one or two cats snuggling with me when I write. Do you have a writing buddy, or do you find it distracting?

I wish I could convince my cats to snuggle with me while I write! They only seem interested in lying near or on my keyboard so that I’ll pet them instead of typing. Sigh.

Much of my writing time is spent in blissful solitude, though I currently get together with a small group of children’s book authors every Monday and write all day at a bakery/coffee shop. We do a good job of keeping our noses to the grindstone, with minimal chatting except for when we break for lunch. Mondays are always very productive! I also have had lots of critique buddies over the years. Running everything I write by another writer—whether for significant feedback or a just few polishing notes—is an absolute necessity for me. My current/long-time go-to critique buddy (we are each other’s “secret weapon”) will even be reading my answers here!

Beth Kander On Choosing Which Story to Write Next

Inspiration is a funny thing. It can come to us like a lightning bolt, through the lyrics of a song, or in the fog of a dream. Ask any writer where their stories come from and you’ll get a myriad of answers, and in that vein I created the WHAT (What the Hell Are you Thinking?) interview. Always including in the WHAT is one random question to really dig down into the interviewees mind, and probably supply some illumination into my own as well.

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Today's guest for the WHAT is Beth Kander who lives and writes in Chicago, where stories keep her warm. Her dystopian epic Original Syn debuted in September from Owl House Books. An award-winning playwright, Beth has an MFA in Creative Writing from Mississippi University for Women, and also holds degrees from Brandeis University and the University of Michigan.

Ideas for our books can come from just about anywhere, and sometimes even we can’t pinpoint exactly how or why. Did you have a specific origin point for your book?

It’s rare that I have such a clear starting point for any writing project, but I really can pinpoint the exact moment when the whole Original Syn journey began. I was on an airplane in the spring of 2011, and a passenger had left their tattered copy of Time magazine behind. Half-stoned on all the Dramamine I have to take to keep motion sickness at bay, I read an article about the impending “Singularity,” the event horizon when man and machine merge.

I was struck by how casually the author’s article, Lev Grossman, approached the whole idea that, as he put it: “[Computers will be] writing books, making ethical decisions, appreciating fancy paintings, making witty observations at cocktail parties… we’ll merge with them and become super-intelligent cyborgs.” He estimated this happening in 2045, or sooner. In our lifetimes. I was terrified at the thought, and started wondering what the world would look like after this happened, especially if the tech was denied to those of us who aren’t mega-rich. Somehow I thought I could write an epic trilogy exploring the fallout of such a thing. I blame the Dramamine.

Once the original concept existed, how did you build a plot around it?

I think the most interesting stories explore different angles: X event happened; Character(s) A went one way, Character(s) B went another, and now as Y event approaches…. ugh, wait, that sounds a lot like math. Math is much cleaner than my writing process. Let me try again. How did I build a plot around the original concept? I came up with some main characters, and wrote out an arc for each of them, then started tangling them together, and then Frankenstein’ed a really weird first draft… and then did a hell of a lot of revising.

Have you ever had the plot firmly in place, only to find it changing as the story moved from your mind to paper?

UM YES. You know that meme about how people think success looks like a straight line from Starting Point to Success, but what it really looks like is Starting Point, EXTREMELY TANGLED BALL OF YARN, Success? Writing is like that for me, except sometimes with like six thousand balls of multicolored extra-tangle-y yarn.

Do story ideas come to you often, or is fresh material hard to come by?

Constantly. Story ideas slam into me constantly. I have slips of paper and emailed notes and voicemails I left myself back in 2008. I have a running list of works-in-progress, and I have serious guilt about some of the languishing ones.

How do you choose which story to write next, if you’ve got more than one percolating?

When there’s an external deadline—a big playwriting competition I want to enter, say, or the publisher has a hard-and-fast deadline for my next round of revisions—that’s helpful. Otherwise it’s usually this weird but wonderful pattern where one of the ideas rises up from my list of works-in-progress and yells louder than the rest. The squeakiest mental wheel then gets the grease, at least until I’m handed a new deadline or something else clamors more loudly. Once I was literally two chapters away from finishing a book project, then had an idea for a play that gripped me hard and wouldn’t let go, so I cranked out an entire first draft of the play over the course of a weekend, so it would quiet down and I could return to those last two chapters of the abruptly neglected novel.

I have six cats. There's usually at least one or two snuggling with me when I write. Do you have a writing buddy, or do you find it distracting?

Six! Cats! Six—?! I’d seen several pictures of your cats but assumed it was just two or three moving around a lot! 

I love the idea of writing buddies. I’ve been part of various writing groups over the years, but I’m not currently part of any regularly-assembling writer posse. I might join or start one again, someday; I do like the solidarity and peer pressure of other writers sitting nearby tapping away at their keyboards. Right now, what I do have includes two geriatric dogs who bark at imagined enemies (either that, or my house is haunted and they are very good about keeping the ghosts at bay), an engaging and exhaustingly extroverted husband (he really can talk to a stick), a bubbly almost-two-old-daughter (she overthinks like me and over-verbalizes like her father... it’s intense, y’all), and a day job. Does it make me sound awful to admit that when I can slip away and be alone with my computer and a massive mug of coffee, free of my loudly beautiful daily distractions, these days that’s often when I get my best writing done?

Tara Gilboy On Knowing What Your Characters Want... And Why

Inspiration is a funny thing. It can come to us like a lightning bolt, through the lyrics of a song, or in the fog of a dream. Ask any writer where their stories come from and you’ll get a myriad of answers, and in that vein I created the WHAT (What the Hell Are you Thinking?) interview. Always including in the WHAT is one random question to really dig down into the interviewees mind, and probably supply some illumination into my own as well.

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Today's guest for the WHAT is Tara Gilboy. Tara holds a master of Fine Arts in Creative Writing from the University of British Columbia, where she specialized in writing for children and young adults. She teaches creative writing for San Diego Continuing Education and lives in southern California with her husband, daughter, and dog, Biscuit. Unwritten is her first novel.

Ideas for our books can come from just about anywhere, and sometimes even we can’t pinpoint exactly how or why. Did you have a specific origin point for your book?

I actually have a couple origin points for this novel. I had written a different book for my MFA thesis, and I found an agent for it pretty quickly, so I really had my hopes up when it went out on submission, and then …. Nothing. It didn’t sell. This shook my confidence as a writer, and I was starting and stopping a lot of projects and feeling insecure about my writing. Finally I decided to write something just for fun, something that was just for me, that I never planned on showing anyone, as a way to make writing fun for myself again. Unwritten was my “just for fun” project.

At the same time, I kept having this recurring nightmare where some sort of supernatural entity was coming after me, and I had to pack up whatever I could fit into my car and run away forever. That dream was initially my starting point in the story; in the early drafts, the story opened with a stranger arriving in the middle of the night and telling Gracie and her mother that they have to flee. I think my original opening line was “The pounding shook the house,” as this stranger knocks on the door.

Later, as I continued working on the novel, I realized that in order for readers to feel invested in that moment, they needed to know more about Gracie first, so the scene got pushed back into what I think is now chapter four or five, and it eventually evolved into something completely different. But the origin of this story was me exploring who Gracie was running from and why, as well as giving myself permission to play around with these ideas without pressuring myself to write something with the end goal of publication in mind.

Once the original concept existed, how did you build a plot around it?

Through A LOT of trial and error. I wrote the first draft of Unwritten in one year, and I spent two years revising it. I am not an outliner (at least not for my first draft), so I must have written hundreds of pages that I ultimately threw away. (I recently found some handwritten pages of a draft that I had forgotten I wrote!) I took some novel workshops with Sarah Aronson, who is an amazing teacher, and she really helped me streamline the plot, as did my writing buddy Jill, and my workshop group, the RCC, who I have been workshopping weekly with ever since we did our MFAs together at UBC.

One thing I learned as I was revising my plot structure was that when I begin to get off track, I need to return to my character’s basic goals and needs. What does my character WANT by the end of this book? What does my character NEED (internally) by the end of this book? If a plot point is not related to either of these two things, it’s likely it needs some tweaking or can be cut from the novel.

In early drafts, Gracie did not know from the beginning that she is a fairy tale character; she found out midway through the book. In that version, the story wasn’t strong enough to sustain the novel because she didn’t have strong desires and emotional wounds: things just kind of “happened” to her. In my final version, Gracie’s internal and external struggle is ALL about being a fairy tale character: it’s what drives the entire plot.

I’m also kind of addicted to reading craft books, so once I had written my first draft, I did a lot of outlining and shaping of the story using principles in books like Robert McKee’s Story, Joseph Campbell’s The Hero with a Thousand Faces, and Lisa Cron’s Story Genius (I saw her speak at an SCBWI conference, and it completely changed the way I approached my revision). I also did a lot of revising to make sure I had hit all the major plot points: inciting incident, midpoint, climax, etc.

Have you ever had the plot firmly in place, only to find it changing as the story moved from your mind to paper?

I don’t outline my first draft, so I don’t have a plot in place when I begin. The few times I’ve tried to outline a first draft, I kept trying to force my characters to do things that didn’t feel natural to them, and it led me to ultimately abandon the project. For me, I get to know my characters, my story, and my plot through the process of writing, of watching my characters in action, seeing how they act and react, and finding out what is important to them. Certainly my plot changes as I revise, but I expect that since I never have one firmly in place to begin with. I wish I were able to have a plot in mind before I begin. I have a feeling I would save a lot of time (and wasted pages!).

Do story ideas come to you often, or is fresh material hard to come by?

Story ideas come to me all the time – the hard part is choosing which ideas have the “legs” to be turned into fully-developed stories. And “legs” might not even be the right way to characterize it. What does not have legs for me might turn into a wonderful story for another writer if they see potential where I did not.

I keep a small notebook in my purse so that I can jot down ideas as they come to me. It’s amazing how surrounded we are by stories all the time. I recently started teaching a class called “Rediscover San Diego” for San Diego Continuing Education, and it’s become part of my job to go to different venues in the city and talk to people there, finding out more about the work they do. I have gotten to meet so many fascinating people: a man who opened a camel dairy (it’s a thing!), a teacher who created his own museum devoted to African history because he was frustrated so little of it was being taught in schools (his collection is amazing!), a husband and wife team who were given a recipe by a master French caramel maker and then traveled all over the French countryside studying caramel-making…. I think I collected a lifetime’s worth of story ideas from last semester alone.

I think as writers we tend to spend a lot of time alone, with our books and our laptops, but it’s so important to get out into the world and really be present in the moment and pay attention to the places and people around us. Julia Cameron in The Artist’s Way talks about going on “artist dates” with ourselves, and I think that’s wonderful advice to help fill the creative well.

How do you choose which story to write next, if you’ve got more than one percolating?

This is always a tough thing for me, but I think I’ve gotten better at choosing over the years. I start and abandon stories all the time, usually about thirty pages or so into a project. I always do some freewriting and rough drafting when I have a story idea, playing around with different directions I might take it. I think for me, the determining factor of whether this kind of “playing around” is a project I will stick with is related to character goals.

I have spent SO much time over the years working on projects that went nowhere because my protagonist did not have:

  • 1) A tangible goal (with real stakes) for her to pursue over the course of the novel and

  • 2) some sort of emotional wound, something that she needed to resolve for herself by the end of the novel.

I need to know what my protagonist wants so desperately and why, and if I don’t have at least a sense of this by the time I’ve done some of this freewriting and rough drafting, then I usually decide that my idea is not strong enough to sustain an entire novel. At least those are the problems I have run into in the past. I’ve wasted a lot of time working on story ideas that I ultimately abandoned because in the end, I didn’t know what my protagonist wanted and why, and so the foundation of my idea was not strong enough to sustain a novel.

I have 8 cats (seriously, check my Instagram feed) and I usually have at least one or two snuggling with me when I write. Do you have a writing buddy, or do you find it distracting?

I do have a writing buddy! Her name is Biscuit, and she is my little ten-pound Yorkie/Maltese mix. You used the word “or” when you asked if I found it distracting, and I would say “and” is more appropriate for me because she is my writing buddy, AND I find her distracting, but I don’t have much of a choice in the matter because she climbs into my lap every time I sit down to write.

Actually, though I don’t find her as distracting as I used to. I’ve gotten good at balancing both Biscuit and a notebook on my lap. When she was a puppy, that was another story…..