Joy Llewellyn On Writing Never Being Wasted

Inspiration is a funny thing. It can come to us like a lightning bolt, through the lyrics of a song, or in the fog of a dream. Ask any writer where their stories come from and you’ll get a myriad of answers, and in that vein I created the WHAT (What the Hell Are you Thinking?) interview. Always including in the WHAT is one random question to really dig down into the interviewees mind, and probably supply some illumination into my own as well.

Today’s guest for the WHAT is Joy Llewellyn, author of The Teen Rebel Series which involve teenage girls kicking butt as they find their way out of unfamiliar and challenging situations. Camino Maggie is the first in the series.

Ideas for our books can come from just about anywhere, and sometimes even we can’t pinpoint exactly how or why. Did you have a specific origin point for your book?

My husband, Evan, and I were hiking the Camino Frances, a 1,000-year-old pilgrimage route. We hiked for 72 days straight, averaging 25km per day, from Le Puy, France to Santiago, Spain. Evan had been a counsellor for Youth at Risk and when we were hiking, he made a comment about how taking troubled youth on this hike would be a better way to help them heal and deal with their issues than any of the punishments our system handed them. That was the seed for Camino Maggie. We have since hiked five more Camino routes in Spain and France and that idea still rings true.

Once the original concept existed, how did you build a plot around it?

Not a lot about the plot has changed since my first draft. I knew I wanted a protagonist that got caught doing a B&E and then was forced to hike the Camino Frances as punishment. The big change involved the gender of my characters. I wrote it with teen boys in mind, then during Draft 2 gave myself a shake and thought of all the travel and adventure books I had read growing up and how the majority of them had a male protagonist. In Draft 3 I finally switched genders, making the young offenders forced to go on this hike female, and it opened up language and experience possibilities. I shamelessly used my Camino journals for story ideas, so many of the physical experiences are true and something Evan and I went through. 

Have you ever had the plot firmly in place, only to find it changing as the story moved from your mind to paper?

Again, the plot didn’t change much from the first draft. It was the characters I continually fleshed out, again borrowing shamelessly from the people we met on the trail and either tweaking their story or combining stories or imaging the reverse of what a person had told me and slipping in that version. People jump into personal story exchanges when hiking on any of the nine main Camino routes. I was a film and TV screenwriter and one of the steps you had to do (and it’s a paid step) was write an Outline, like a short story version of your script. That step is part of my creative process for everything I write. The biggest unknown was how would Maggie, my protagonist, feel at the end of her hike? Would she reconcile with her mother? Would she learn more about her own future dreams, and be willing to again step out of her comfort zone to explore them? That was a fun process. By the end of the book, she spoke and I wrote. 

Do story ideas come to you often, or is fresh material hard to come by?

I have been a working writer for almost 30 years, as a journalist, editor, fiction and non-fiction writer, screenwriter, story editor, and now novelist. Fresh material is NEVER hard to come by. The problem is finding the time to write all the stories that present themselves. And because I was a professional writer, I didn’t have the luxury of picking and choosing when I wrote. Each day was putting my butt on my desk chair and getting down to it. This was especially true of working in TV, which is time-intensive. Most of my writing work was in documentaries, which usually had a smaller budget than any drama productions so the research and writing work was done as expeditiously as possible. Finding the right person to interview, getting them to share the most dramatic stories, was a very similar process to developing characters for my fiction writing.

How do you choose which story to write next, if you’ve got more than one percolating?

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 Ah, a good question. I struggle with that decision. I have two completed manuscripts in this Teen Rebel series and am presently doing a deep edit of Book 2, which I plan to publish in January, and will then move on to a deep edit of Book 3. They are all YA. The one common thread is they involve a teenager—female—finding herself forced to deal with a situation that is out of her comfort zone—but she always wins/learns/celebrates her experiences. I have a number of film and TV scripts that never went anywhere and plan to change them into novels. “Spark Rebecca,” Book 2 of the Teen Rebel Series, is based on a spec script I wrote mega-years ago as a writing sample for sci-fi shows I was pitching myself to as a writer. It never got produced, but like my spec X-Files, it got me work. And now I get to play with it. Nothing we write ever goes to waste.

I have 5 cats (seriously, check my Instagram feed) and I usually have at least one or two snuggling with me when I write. Do you have a writing buddy, or do you find it distracting?

I live on a small island a 2-1/2 hour ferry ride away from Vancouver, BC (the “mainland”). There are 2,400 people, hundreds of deer, a resident Orca pod, and my beloved Muddy Lotus writing group. There are five of us, all professional women writers, who get together every two weeks to share work and get feedback. Everyone is working on a new book—there are about 40 books published by these fabulous women (poets, memoirist, children’s, YA). I’m the newbie novelist of the bunch. We call ourselves the Muddy Lotus because in mud, the lotus grows. We’ve all had life experiences that have left our mud well fertilized with experiences and feelings of pain, joy, lust, love, pity, embarrassment, happiness, illness, ego, fear, and lots of curiosity! 

Alex Aster on Being Inspired by Latinx Mythology

Inspiration is a funny thing. It can come to us like a lightning bolt, through the lyrics of a song, or in the fog of a dream. Ask any writer where their stories come from and you’ll get a myriad of answers, and in that vein I created the WHAT (What the Hell Are you Thinking?) interview. Always including in the WHAT is one random question to really dig down into the interviewees mind, and probably supply some illumination into my own as well.

Today’s guest is Alex Aster whose first book, Emblem Island, comes out in Spring 2020. Alex is represented by Laura Bradford, at Bradford Literary Agency.

Ideas for our books can come from just about anywhere, and sometimes even we can’t pinpoint exactly how or why. Did you have a specific origin point for your book?

The idea for the Emblem Island series came from a story my Colombian grandmother first told me when I was four years old. In this specific cuento, a girl is gifted a beautiful marking on her forehead for following the rules, and her wicked sister is given horns for breaking them. The idea of earning or being given symbols stuck with me, and became the basis of the Emblem Island world, where everyone is born with markings on their skin that dictate their fate and talents.

Once the original concept existed, how did you build a plot around it?

Like most authors, this isn’t the first book I’ve written—but it was the first to get published, and, surprisingly, was the easiest to write. In Curse of the Night Witch, the main character, Tor Luna, is cursed with a deadly emblem, and must find the mysterious Night Witch to reverse his curse. Because it’s a quest, I found building the plot to be not only a smoother process, but also a lot of fun! As the characters got closer to the Night Witch, and crossed Emblem Island for the first time, I was able to write in all sorts of magical, treacherous, and scary scenarios or characters they would run into on their journey.

Also, because of the impact Latinx stories had on my life and creativity, it was important for me to include some stories inspired by Latinx myths, including La Llorona, and La Ciguapa. From there, I wrote my own original stories, which became The Book of Cuentos, the book my main characters have to use to find the Night Witch. We decided in edits to include stories from this book between most chapters, so it’s almost like a book within a book, which I think is pretty cool!

Have you ever had the plot firmly in place, only to find it changing as the story moved from your mind to paper?

In its first iteration, the story was pretty much the same as it is now—but 25,000 words shorter. After I signed with Laura Bradford, my amazing agent, the book expanded, and included many more adventures and worlds within Emblem Island. From the beginning, I had a pretty good idea of how the story would end up, and it was just a matter of getting the characters there. This is definitely not how I typically write, but the plot remained pretty firmly in place the entire way through.

Do story ideas come to you often, or is fresh material hard to come by?

Story ideas don’t come easily when I’m trying to look for them, but love to fall like clumsy shooting stars and hit me over the head when I least expect it. Once an idea I love is in my hands, it grows pretty rapidly, and it’s up to me to contain it all in a story. I’m also very inspired by music—certain songs set the mood for the tale I’m trying to tell, and I’ll often listen to the same track on a loop while I’m writing.

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How do you choose which story to write next, if you’ve got more than one percolating?

I’ve started a few very different stories after selling Emblem Island: Curse of the Night Witch, but one in particular has stuck. I finished writing it, and am now re-writing it, but I’m not in a huge rush, the same way I have been for other books. This time, I’m letting the inspiration come at me in its own time, instead of forcing it. But I do hope to have it finished by the time the first Emblem Island book comes out, which is June 9th! In terms of how to choose which story to write next, I think story ideas are kind of like roommates—you might enjoy a conversation or two with a certain person (or idea), but which one do you want to live with (mentally) for the next few years? Writing a book means living with the story for a long while, and reading it dozens of times, so it’s a pretty big commitment, and you really have to love it to give it the time and dedication it deserves.

I have 5 cats (seriously, check my Instagram feed) and I usually have at least one or two snuggling with me when I write. Do you have a writing buddy, or do you find it distracting?

That’s so cute! I don’t have a permanent writing buddy, but I do sometimes borrow my twin sister’s ridiculously cute miniature poodle, Leo. He’s not distracting because he pretty instantly falls asleep in a ball in my lap.

Matt Mair Lowery On Letting Characters Take the Lead

Inspiration is a funny thing. It can come to us like a lightning bolt, through the lyrics of a song, or in the fog of a dream. Ask any writer where their stories come from and you’ll get a myriad of answers, and in that vein I created the WHAT (What the Hell Are you Thinking?) interview. Always including in the WHAT is one random question to really dig down into the interviewees mind, and probably supply some illumination into my own as well.

Today’s guest for the WHAT is Matt Mair Lowery is the author of Lifeformed, a YA Sci-fi series from Dark Horse Comics, illustrated by Cassie Anderson.

Ideas for our books can come from just about anywhere, and sometimes even we can’t pinpoint exactly how or why. Did you have a specific origin point for your book?

I do. Lifeformed came from a couple different ideas. The first was less about the actual story and more about the type of story or comic I wanted to have to read with my daughters. When I was growing up, the comics that spoke to me most were things like The Uncanny X-Men, that felt sort of dangerous and gave me some insight into being a person in general and being a teenager or an adult in particular, while also being stories full of action and adventure.

Back when I was first developing Lifeformed, the great Middle Grade/YA graphic novel explosion had yet to happen and there were a lot fewer choices out there for a story along those lines. Also, I wanted something my daughters could identify with and that I could identify with, and that we could read and discuss the ideas and themes of and such.

So, in Lifeformed, that thinking resulted in Cleo, our young hero/protagonist, a girl coming of age after her dad is killed in an alien invasion, and Alien Alex, the shapeshifting rebel alien who takes Cleo’s dad’s place and with whom she fights back against the invaders. So essentially, I imagined, someone for my girls to relate to and for me to relate to. The funny thing is that while I initially imagined I’d being seeing the story through Alien Alex’s eyes, identifying with him, the more Lifeformed I write, the more it’s Cleo that’s really in my head.

The second major origin point for Lifeformed is much simpler… my love of The Terminator movies. Cleo was in large part born out of the question “What if Sarah Connor was a little girl?”

Once the original concept existed, how did you build a plot around it?

The characters and general situation (the alien invasion) came pretty easily, but the plot itself was definitely a process. Lifeformed co-creator and artist Cassie Anderson and I at first just set out to make a comic for ourselves, but when our first issue made its way to Dark Horse Comics and we met with them, the format we’d envisioned initially (single issues, delivered monthly) changed and we pivoted toward the graphic novel format. This meant a complete story in under 200 pages instead of an ongoing, serialized story.

For the structure of this, since I’d never written anything of that length/complexity before, I leaned a lot on the hero’s journey, especially Dan Harmon’s “story circles” take on it and The Writer’s Journey by Christopher Vogler, basically taking all these small moments and interactions between Cleo and Alien Alex (the relationship stuff that usually comes easiest and had been in my head from the start) and figuring out where they belonged on Cleo’s journey from not-very-confident kid to alien fighter. And, of course, interspersing action scenes and such in a way that hopefully spoke to where Cleo was at a given point in the story. But anyway, the hero’s journey was definitely the skeleton/structure of the first book. I also received great help from our editors at Dark Horse in terms of focus and tone and approach to the format.

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For the second book in the series, Lifeformed: Hearts and Minds (released September of this year). The whole thing arrived more or less fully-formed in my head. It takes place largely in my neighborhood in Portland, and after the initial idea I had of it being sort of No Country for Old Men for kids, I came up with most of the details on my regular runs through the area, so by the time I went to actually write it down it was all just sort of there. To me it’s much looser, a lot less structured, than Cleo Makes Contact. After so much time with Cleo and company in my head, at this point my approach is to just throw them into a situation or even a location and see how they react and then they mostly write themselves.

Have you ever had the plot firmly in place, only to find it changing as the story moved from your mind to paper?

Always. I mean, maybe the overall plot holds up, generally, but once I start to get it down and it is there all concrete on the page, I’m instantly seeing things that just don’t work at all and things that work way better than I thought and send me down other paths. It feels sort of like it’s the first stage of editing, especially if it’s something I’ve had in my head for a while. As I write the first draft I’m throwing away ideas from the zero draft or whatever you want to call it that I had in my head.

Especially in comics, you can have very grand ideas, but you usually have limited space, and you end up trimming those grand ideas pretty quick once you realize how many pages and panels you have to make your story work. Also, in my experience so far, it feels like once I start typing, if something is working well, it takes on a life of its own and I want to lean into that. The best and most rewarding thing to me is when characters surprise me, and take the story in a different direction than whatever I might have laid out.

Do story ideas come to you often, or is fresh material hard to come by?

It feels like it comes in waves to me, at least lately, and the more I write the more ideas I have. If I get lazy and don’t write regularly, even if writing is feeling like a slog or something, it seems like the ideas start to dry up. The more I write the more it feels like fresh stuff keeps coming to mind. But I definitely seem to have periods of time where a handful of different story ideas will crop up all at once and I have to race to get them down, and then my brain goes into a sort of dormant mode. I usually just try not to sweat that and still work on something anyway so that when the wave comes again I’m ready. Also, since I’m working on comics, there are usually other aspects of projects I can work on, from design to promotion, so I can still feel productive.

How do you choose which story to write next, if you’ve got more than one percolating?

Usually it’s just whatever I feel most inspired to tackle at the moment. Once something is done percolating and is good, it feels like I can’t say no to it and I have to start writing. Lately I’m thinking that waiting for the idea to come together and fully cook in a way that makes me feel like I have no choice but to spend the next week fleshing it out is the best way to go. Hold off until it feels right and undeniable and then run with that momentum.

I have 5 cats (seriously, check my Instagram feed) and I usually have at least one or two snuggling with me when I write. Do you have a writing buddy, or do you find it distracting?

Phew, five cats is a lot. I admire and respect animals, but I’m not much of an animal person, so I don’t have a writing buddy in that way and would definitely find it distracting. The closest thing for me is music. The louder the music, the more productive I am. It’s also the thing that comforts me, so if I feel like I’m having an off day, it’s usually music that’s going to snap me out of it, or at least get me through. I certainly can’t imagine writing without it.