Gloria Chao On Finding Inspiration & What to Write Next

Inspiration is a funny thing. It can come to us like a lightning bolt, through the lyrics of a song, or in the fog of a dream. Ask any writer where their stories come from and you’ll get a myriad of answers, and in that vein I created the WHAT (What the Hell Are you Thinking?) interview. Always including in the WHAT is one random question to really dig down into the interviewees mind, and probably supply some illumination into my own as well.

Today’s guest for the WHAT is Gloria Chao the critically acclaimed author of American PandaOur Wayward Fate, and Rent a Boyfriend (Nov 10, 2020). Her wayward journey to fiction included studying business at MIT, then becoming a dentist. Gloria was once a black belt in kung-fu and an avid dancer, but nowadays you can find her teaming up with her husband on the curling ice. 

Ideas for our books can come from just about anywhere, and sometimes even we can’t pinpoint exactly how or why. Did you have a specific origin point for your book?

For Rent a Boyfriend (out November 10, 2020), there was a clear origin point. When I learned that women in some Asian countries can feel so much familial pressure to bring home the ideal spouse that they hire fake boyfriends, my gut response was, I get it. As a Taiwanese American with traditional parents, I understood that pressure. I found myself wondering how a rental boyfriend would work and what it was like for both sides, and I decided to explore it. I brought the practice to America and created a company, Rent for Your ’Rents, that specializes in training fake significant others. 

Once the original concept existed, how did you build a plot around it?

Because I wanted to explore what life was like for a Rent for Your ’Rents operative as well as for a client, this book had to be dual point of view. I also wanted the protagonist/client, Chloe, to fall for the operative, but the real person behind the role, not the persona her parents get to know. And real Drew is not someone Chloe’s parents would approve of.

From there, I worked backward to figure out who Chloe and Drew are. Chloe needed a reason for hiring Drew. Enter Hongbo, the rich, misogynist flagship bachelor of Chloe’s tightknit Asian community. I drew upon my own experiences to create the Asian community that put miànzi/reputation above all else, even their daughter’s happiness. And for Drew, I wanted him and Chloe to understand each other but to be at different points on the journey: Drew has dropped out of college to pursue art and is now estranged from his family because of that choice, and Chloe is still trying to find a way to appease her parents.

Have you ever had the plot firmly in place, only to find it changing as the story moved from your mind to paper?

For all three of my books, I draft with only the big points planned out, and those did not change. However, the path to those points has taken some very surprising (and very fun!) turns. My favorite part of drafting is when you come up with an idea that ties everything together and you suddenly can’t type fast enough.

For Rent a Boyfriend, there’s a big showdown scene that happens in the middle of the book that came to me as I was drafting, and I was worried it was too out there (I remember texting a writer friend and asking her if it was too much), but it became the scene that most of my early readers brought up to me as a memorable, powerful moment. 

Do story ideas come to you often, or is fresh material hard to come by?

When I first started writing, story ideas felt elusive and hard to come by. Now, I have more ideas and it’s getting harder to choose what to focus on next. My debut novel, American Panda, was very much inspired by my experiences and almost everything in that book is from my life or from the life of someone I know. Because of that, coming up with new ideas felt more difficult.

With Our Wayward Fate and Rent a Boyfriend, I finally found the balance of drawing from my own experiences while also having more freedom of story. Once that happened, the ideas started coming easier. I have a notebook I write all my story ideas in that was gifted to me by my husband on our third wedding anniversary (leather anniversary!) soon after I first switched careers from dentist to writer. He wrote inside the front cover that he believed my books would sell and that I would need the notebook for all the books that were to come. I remember not believing him at the time, and the notebook is a wonderful reminder of how far I’ve come from there.

How do you choose which story to write next, if you’ve got more than one percolating?

I talk to my agent about strategizing with my overall career, but at the end of the day, I usually go with the idea I’m most passionate about. I never write for the market, but I do think about which ideas are better follow-ups to my previous books. In general, most of my work fits under the umbrella of Asian American protagonists struggling with their identity, trying to find love, and working through complicated family dynamics. And with humor! 

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I have 5 cats and one Dalmatian puppy (seriously, check my Instagram feed) and I usually have at least one or two snuggling with me when I write. Do you have a writing buddy, or do you find it distracting? 

I don’t have a writing buddy, but I have some knick-knacks I like to keep on my desk! This little plastic panda was a gift from my brother, and he sits on top of my computer screen. The enamel pins of a panda drinking boba and a soup dumpling are from my PitchWars mentee, Susan Lee. The miniature curling rock is because my husband and I are avid curlers! The Author button is from my first NCTE conference.

Kat Ellis On Combining Your Ideas & Harrow Lake Giveaway!

Inspiration is a funny thing. It can come to us like a lightning bolt, through the lyrics of a song, or in the fog of a dream. Ask any writer where their stories come from and you’ll get a myriad of answers, and in that vein I created the WHAT (What the Hell Are you Thinking?) interview. Always including in the WHAT is one random question to really dig down into the interviewees mind, and probably supply some illumination into my own as well.

 Today’s guest for the WHAT is Kat Ellis, a young adult author from North Wales. She writes creepy thrillers, including Harrow Lake, coming this summer from Penguin Random House Children’s. When she’s not writing, Kat can usually be found adventuring in ruined castles and cemeteries, taking photos of weird and wonderful things to inspire her writing.

Ideas for our books can come from just about anywhere, and sometimes even we can’t pinpoint exactly how or why. Did you have a specific origin point for your book?

My love of horror movies is definitely where Harrow Lake sprang from. There are quite a few horror movie references throughout the book, and the story takes place in a town which was used as the set for a horror movie some 20 years ago called Nightjar. But Harrow Lake underwent several massive changes while I was drafting, and it’s only as I look back that I realize the first draft was actually really close to the plot of Nightjar. I guess it’s true that no writing is ever wasted! (That is a lie. I have reams of old drafts that’ll never see the light of day.)

Once the original concept existed, how did you build a plot around it?

I tend to write in layers — I start with the setting before building even a skeletal plot or having any vague inkling of the characters, and then I begin to populate it. I come up with my backdrop, figure out the key markers of the setting (things like the Bone Tree in Harrow Lake where kids hang their lost teeth so the monster won’t get them), then I decide what kind of people would inhabit this place and what they might get up to. The skeleton of the plot tends to come together in the first draft for me, and I flesh it out by going over and over it, adding more layers. 

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Have you ever had the plot firmly in place, only to find it changing as the story moved from your mind to paper?

Always. I like figuring out stories as if they’re puzzles, and sometimes it’s hard to see what piece fits where until you’re right in the thick of it. Other times I’ll come up with an interesting character quirk or some new motivation which sends the plot off in an unexpected direction. It’s what I enjoy most about first-drafting (except when I’m on a tight deadline, UGH. Then unruly plots and characters can just get in the bin.) 

Do story ideas come to you often, or is fresh material hard to come by?

Usually, I have 3 or 4 loose story ideas in my head at any one time. Sometimes two of them might merge together. That happened with Harrow Lake, as the original plot merged into the backstory of Nightjar. It also happened with my last novel, Purge, which ended up as a twisty dual narrative that came together pretty neatly (if I do say so myself!) I’ll also happily cannibalize story elements from unfinished projects if I think they’ll work within another story setting.

How do you choose which story to write next, if you’ve got more than one percolating?

In the past, that has depended entirely on which story was calling to me most strongly. Now I decide that together with my editors. I definitely prefer having their input!

I have 8 cats and 1 Dalmatian puppy (seriously, check my Instagram feed) and I usually have at least one or two snuggling with me when I write. Do you have a writing buddy, or do you find it distracting?

5?! That is serious goals. I have 2 cats: Cricket has a designated (fleece-lined) desk drawer to sleep in while I work, and Pilot prefers a cardboard box on the floor next to me. Both are ridiculous, but I wouldn’t be without them.

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Krysten Lindsay Hager on Putting Anxiety on the Page for Teens

Inspiration is a funny thing. It can come to us like a lightning bolt, through the lyrics of a song, or in the fog of a dream. Ask any writer where their stories come from and you’ll get a myriad of answers, and in that vein I created the WHAT (What the Hell Are you Thinking?) interview. Always including in the WHAT is one random question to really dig down into the interviewees mind, and probably supply some illumination into my own as well.

Today’s guest is Kyrsten Lindsay Hager, who writes about friendship, self-esteem, fitting in, frenemies, crushes, fame, first loves, and values.  Her debut novel, True Colors, won the Readers Favorite award for best preteen book and the Dayton Book Expo Bestseller Award for children/teens.

Ideas for our books can come from just about anywhere, and sometimes even we can’t pinpoint exactly how or why. Did you have a specific origin point for your book?

For In Over Her Head: Lights, Camera, Anxiety, I wanted to have a character in her teen years who was suddenly in the position where she could have everything she thought she wanted so she could see what it was really like. In this case, Cecily’s goal was to be an actress and she was also dreaming about dating her favorite singer/songwriter because she connected so deeply with his lyrics. I put her in a place where she got to do both those things (music video audition), and let her see if it (the career, the fame, the high profile relationship) was all it was cracked up to be. To be honest, my own pop star crushes from my teen years motivated me as well.

Once the original concept existed, how did you build a plot around it?

I expected Cecily to have some anxiety about acting and modeling and being thrown into this new world of fame, but as I began writing, the singer/songwriter character, Andrew Holiday, began having his own issues with anxiety. I didn’t plan for that to be part of the storyline, but I kept picturing him having anxiety before doing radio interviews and feeling the pressure from the record companies. It came out of nowhere, so having him open up to Cecily about that became a real bonding point for the two of them. That whole plot point deepened their relationship and made you root for them as a couple.

Have you ever had the plot firmly in place, only to find it changing as the story moved from your mind to paper? 

I wanted to have Cecily experience a dream career moment. I gave her a magazine photo shoot opportunity that she got from Andrew’s recommendation. I knew I was going to basically throw her into the deep end of the pool with that and she’d have to see if she really wanted this lifestyle. However, when I was writing it, I was listening to a song called, “Flesh and Bone,” by Marina and it inspired me to change that scene from just being about Cecily to showing how the established models deal with insecurities, too. The two models, Neneh and Scarlet, witness Cecily having an anxiety attack and I had them share their own stories of insecurities to show we all have our moments of self-doubt.

After I wrote that scene, I had two other changes. One was that I had Cecily’s grandma feeling overwhelmed in this new exciting world, but then I had the photographer ask her to model as well. I loved the idea of a woman starting a new adventure in the years she thought she would be retiring.

I also wanted to show that we all have our own strengths and talents that we bring to the table. I decided to have Cecily feeling insecure about working with established models, but then she brings her acting ability to the photo shoot and really stands out. She walks in feeling like she isn’t as good as the others and then overhears stylists saying she doesn’t deserve to be there, yet she relies on her talent and shows what she brings to the table. My original idea was to see if this was the life Cecily wanted, but in the end the scene changed to show how we all deal with self-doubt and think everyone else has it together but us. 

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Do story ideas come to you often, or is fresh material hard to come by?

I do get story ideas often because I’m very curious about things. I think that’s why I enjoyed being a journalist because there was something new to learn about all of the time. I read lots of articles and books and watch documentaries and biographies on TV. If I find a person or topic that seems interesting then I want to know everything about it and I look up and read tons on the subject, so that’s how I fill my creative well. 

I’m very visual, so I keep a lot of photos that inspire story ideas. I have a drawer full of pictures I’ve taken from magazines and I also keep Pinterest boards full of photos.

How do you choose which story to write next, if you’ve got more than one percolating?

If I can imagine dialogue between the characters, then I stop and jot that down because organic dialogue is so important to a story. I try to stay focused on one thing at a time, but if that spark comes along, I do follow the shiny object.

 I have 5 cats and one Dalmatian puppy (seriously, check my Instagram feed) and I usually have at least one or two snuggling with me when I write. Do you have a writing buddy, or do you find it distracting?

I’d have to say my mother would be mine as she’s my sounding board for ideas. She’s also one of the few people who will drop everything to sit and listen to me go on and on about imaginary people. She’s read all of my work, so she has great input, but most often she just lets me ramble until I’m ready to get back in there and write. She actually inspired what I’m working on now because I wrote a story about a breakup and she kept saying she liked the guy my character breaks up with and I kept laughing saying, “She’s moved on, why can’t you?” And then I realized if my mom was so attached to the guy, then there must have been a reason. So I started working on a story about what he does next.

I also have a little Virginia Woolf plastic doll on my desk that my husband bought me and I admit I have had a conversation or two with her. If she could talk, she’d probably ask me to clean off my desk as she’s nearly been crushed by a pile of notebooks a few times.