On Submission with Laurie Crompton

If there's one thing that many aspiring writers have few clues about, it's the submission process. There are good reasons for that; authors aren't exactly encouraged to talk in detail about our own submission experiences, and - just like agent hunting - everyone's story is different. I managed to cobble together a few non-specific questions that some debut authors have agreed to answer (bless them). And so I bring you the submission interview series - Submission Hell - It's True. Yes, it's the SHIT.

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Today's guest for the SHIT is Laurie Crompton author of ADRENALINE CRUSH (FSG/2014, Square Fish/2016), BLAZE (or Love in the Time of Supervillains), and THE REAL PROM QUEENS OF WESTFIELD HIGH (Sourcebooks/2013, 2014). Laurie graduated first in her class from St. John’s University with a BA in English and minor in Journalism. Since then she’s written for national magazines like ALLURE, survived a teaching stint at an all-boys high school, and appeared on Good Day New York several times as a Toy Expert. And yes, a ‘toy expert’ is an actual thing that people sometimes get to be.

How much did you know about the submission process before you were out on subs yourself?

I was a very active member of Verla Kay’s Blueboards back before it merged with the SCBWI message board and I found it super educational. Thanks to that supportive online community I felt pretty well informed from the beginning. While querying agents I spent a lot of time on the blueboard in what we called The Trenches. Each month we’d start a new trench thread and then find new and creative ways to complain about how looooong response times were and how much we hated the sound of crickets in our inboxes. It was very cathartic; until someone kindly pointed out that the message boards were a public (and searchable) place and that maybe we should knock that whining shit off. So for editor submissions we all shifted our whining to private – ha! The trenches taught me that holding hands with others going through the submissions process is the best way to stay sane during the long wait.

Did anything about the process surprise you?

I thought that hearing that first yes from an editor meant that my waiting days were over. *cue maniacal laughter* My super-human ability to wait for news has come in handy again and again since getting my first book published. Even now, I have an eye on my email because I have a number of things in various stages that I’d love to get some good news on. Meanwhile, I’m trying to finish a draft on a really fun but challenging new project. It turns out that it was never just about hanging in there waiting to get my first ‘yes.’ Building a career has meant learning to ignore the things that are outside my control while I focus on writing.

Did you research the editors you knew had your ms? Do you recommend doing that?

Ha! I am quite skilled at editor stalking. It’s not something I’m proud of, and I’ve mostly given up the practice, but for a time I’d study editor’s bios as if they were tealeaves. Of course everything I saw just confirmed how PERFECT each editor was for my book and made the sting that much worse if they rejected my project. I’ve gotten much better at focusing on writing while on submission, but I’d be lying if I said I completely gave up stalking researching potential editors on our submissions lists.

What was the average amount of time it took to hear back from editors?

In my (vast!) experience, hearing back from editors can take anywhere from one weekend to a few months. Sometimes a longer wait time meant my book was getting passed around for second reads or heading to acquisitions. And other times it just meant it was a longer wait time. It took nearly two years and several submission rounds to sell the third (!!!) book that I wrote. Then five months later my awesome agent sold the fourth book I wrote. So far that five-month wait has been the most lightning-fast thing that’s happened to me in publishing, so, yeah. *see super-human waiting ability mentioned above.* We often hear stories of fast sales and big auctions, but my slow, deliberate pace is just as valid and I suspect more common. As long as we continue to push ourselves to grow as writers we’ll get where we belong.

What do you think is the best way for an author out on submission to deal with the anxiety?

Be kind to yourself and acknowledge that waiting to hear on submissions truly is a unique and torturous form of hell. I absolutely believe writing is both the cause and the cure and diving into another project is the best way to deal with the waiting. But sometimes being kind to yourself means doing other things like exercising or drawing or binge-watching Netflix. Submission hell is a no-judgment zone.

If you had any rejections, how did you deal with that emotionally? How did this kind of rejection compare to query rejections?

In my (vast!) experience with rejections, I’ve found that the closer one gets to a ‘yes,’ the more the ‘no’s sting. On one hand it is great to hear that a book is worthy and just missed the mark for whatever small reason, but on the other hand, getting shot down at the acquisitions stage can be pretty painful when it happens. Like exercise, I’ve found that it’s the second day afterwards that the soreness really sets in. Riding out that pain is just part of getting to play the sport.

If you got feedback on a rejection, how did you process it? How do you compare processing an editor’s feedback as compared to a beta reader’s?

I have awesome beta readers who I trust and so I’m accustomed to that thing where I push through defensiveness in order to see what is missing/unclear/wrong/badly written/garbage etc… I’ve had a few R&Rs (request to revise and resubmit) over the years and have never regretted diving back into a project with an editor’s feedback. I’m pretty grateful any time someone’s willing to read my work and help me improve it. Or even just read it, really – I’m sort of needy that way.

When you got your YES! how did that feel? How did you find out – email, telephone, smoke signal?

I knew we were going to acquisitions on a specific day and then I saw a bunch of hits on my website through my stat counter. I actually set up my webcam at my desk and hit ‘record’ when my agent’s number came up on my cellphone. Here’s a link to a small bit at the end of that phone call – needless to say I was pretty excited to hear the good news. 

Did you have to wait a period of time before sharing your big news, because of details being ironed out? Was that difficult?

I was very fortunate and got to share my news publically about a week after The Call. Which was good because after years of telling people I was a writer I was ready to explode with the happy news that I was about to become a published author. No matter what happens with submissions, as long as we continue writing we’re still writers. And that’s the very best part.

Thursday Thoughts

Thoughts lately...

1) Every now and then my finger slips and I sign emails as "Mindu." Then I think, "that's a cool name too."

2) Mindy is not a hard or weird name, but I get called all kinds of things. Mandy, most usually, but also Wendy, Minday and Monday.

3) Today is St. Patty's Day! If you're Protestant you should actually wear orange - green is for the Catholics. So I guess you could say orange is the new Irish.

Helen Douglas On Inspiration From A Photo

Inspiration is a funny thing. It can come to us like a lightning bolt, through the lyrics of a song, or in the fog of a dream. Ask any writer where their stories come from and you’ll get a myriad of answers, and in that vein I created the WHAT (What the Hell Are you Thinking?) interview. Always including in the WHAT is one random question to really dig down into the interviewees mind, and probably supply some illumination into my own as well.

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Today's guest for the WHAT is Helen Douglas, author of the young adult time-travel romance novel AFTER EDEN (Bloomsbury USA Childrens, July 2013) and the upcoming sequel CHASING STARS  (Bloomsbury USA Childrens July 19, 2016).

Ideas for our books can come from just about anywhere, and sometimes even we can’t pinpoint exactly how or why. Did you have a specific origin point for your book?

Very much so. I came across a photograph from Vanity Fair that imagined what New York City would look like if sea levels were to rise as a result of global warming. It was a frightening, but beautiful illustration. I started researching the likely effects of global warming on communities around the world – not just the effect of rising sea levels on our coastlines and cities and islands, but also on our food production and landscape. And then I began imagining what it would be like to live in a world so recently changed. Because Chasing Stars is the second part of a time travel duology, it had to take place in the future. It was fun – and alarming – to set it just a hundred years in the future, using some of these projections. Then I asked myself how my main character, Eden, would cope if she suddenly found herself living in this world where once powerful nations were struggling to feed their people, and other countries had risen up as world leaders. How would she cope in a world where cereal crops were impossible to grow and insects formed a large part of our diet? 

Once the original concept existed, how did you build a plot around it?

Once I’d decided the story would take place in the future, and that there would be a scene set in New York, I plotted backwards and forwards from that. In After Eden, Eden and Ryan had broken the laws of time travel in order to be together. I knew there had to be consequences. And so, at the beginning of Chasing Stars, a ‘cleaner’ is sent back to ‘clean up’ any trace of Ryan’s presence in the past, and to transport him back to his own time for a trial. As Eden knows about time travel and bits and pieces about the future, she has to go to, to prevent any contamination of the past. The story built from there.

Have you ever had the plot firmly in place, only to find it changing as the story moved from your mind to paper?

I don’t like to outline in too much detail, because for me, the ‘fun’ part of writing is the discovering of the story. If I’ve already worked out in detail what is going to happen every step of the way, the writing itself feels like a chore. So, I have an end point and a journey in mind, but usually find myself taking unexpected detours along the way. With After Eden, however, the book I submitted to my agent had a very different ending to the one that was eventually published. Without giving too much away, the original ending was quite bleak.

Do story ideas come to you often, or is fresh material hard to come by?

I have more ideas than I have time to write. They’re not fully fleshed stories, but bare bones of ideas just waiting to be assembled into an interesting shape and given substance. 

How do you choose which story to write next, if you’ve got more than one percolating?

Generally one of them is yelling just a little bit louder to be heard. That’s the one I’ll go with – the one that makes me most excited. Other times I’ll pass on a story idea for the time being, because I know it will require lots of research and I don’t have the time to do the research at the moment.

When it comes to naming characters, I just rest my hands and let them tell me what their names are. What’s your process? 

It depends. Some of the names of characters in the After Eden series are quite significant. Eden, for instance, is the name not just of the main character, but also of a new world – I wanted to draw on the symbolism of an unspoilt paradise. And because many of the characters in the series live at a time when space exploration is happening, they are names after famous constellations or stars. Many of the minor characters are named after friends. Sometimes I really struggle to fit a name to a character though and have to go through several name changes before it feels right.