Mike Woodward On Poking At Your Own Plot

Inspiration is a funny thing. It can come to us like a lightning bolt, through the lyrics of a song, or in the fog of a dream. Ask any writer where their stories come from and you’ll get a myriad of answers, and in that vein I created the WHAT (What the Hell Are you Thinking?) interview.

Today’s guest for the WHAT is M. P. Woodward, the author of The Handler which is the story of a disgraced former CIA operative who must go back in the field with only his ex-wife as his handler

Ideas for our books can come from just about anywhere, and sometimes even we can’t pinpoint exactly how or why. Did you have a specific origin point for your book?

I did!  It was early January 2020 and I was in an airport about to board a flight for a business trip.  I looked up at a TV screen and saw that CNN was covering a tragic event—the accidental shootdown of a civilian Ukrainian airliner over Tehran.  The Iranian Air Defenses had blundered and taken down this innocent aircraft right over their own capital.  On board the plane were several Iranian college kids, traveling back to school in Canada.  In a prior life as an intelligence analyst, I had spent a lot of time thinking about Iran and knew how their Air Defense people might have made such a disastrous error.  Perhaps because I was in an airport… perhaps because I have college-aged kids myself, I started to think about how the average Iranian parent would feel.  By the time my flight was over, I had the broad outlines for a plot.

Once the original concept existed, how did you build a plot around it?

I started with a few “design principles,” which was how I thought of them at the time.  First, I wanted the story to be about mid-level people who seemed real—with faults, hopes, dreams, bad habits, and sometimes unscrupulous motivations. I wanted them to be low enough on the totem pole that they didn’t always understand what they were doing. And even if they were playing the role of antagonist, I wanted the reader to be able to understand their motivations, to be able to sympathize with them.  Second, I wanted tension in every relationship, even among allies.  That was when I decided it would be fun to have a divorced couple as the core protagonists.  Once I had that couple in mind, I homed in on a theme of familial bonds and trust—the idea that a strong, multi-layered relationship could overcome the most daunting challenge, even if no longer officially together as a couple.  

Have you ever had the plot firmly in place, only to find it changing as the story moved from your mind to paper?

Absolutely—though I might state it differently.  I think sometimes we can think we have a plot all set, but then when we put it on paper, we realize we have gaps.  I don’t know how others do it, but I spent a lot of time writing out a Q and A for myself that would help firm up plot details.  For example, I’d ask myself, “Why wouldn’t Character X already know about this?  Why would Character Y even give a damn?” And then I’d lean back in my chair with my keyboard on my knees and let it rip.  I’d type out long rambling, brain-storming answers until I had the right idea, or more questions, or both.  I probably went through that little exercise twenty times as I made my way through the book.  Sometimes the exercise would make me completely change some plot point I thought I’d had all worked out.

Do story ideas come to you often, or is fresh material hard to come by?

Now that I have a world of characters fully formed, story ideas do come to me often—at least at a high level.  We currently live in a world where geopolitical risks are rising. I spend a few hours a day reading about them and often imagine what a potential story behind the story might be.  If a good narrative involves a hero overcoming a challenge that ultimately leads to a personal transformation, it is not too hard to think about what some of those challenges on the world stage might be.  Of course, the devil is in the details when it comes to weaving that into a compelling read.

How do you choose which story to write next, if you’ve got more than one percolating?

I try to have an idea for what I want my protagonists to go through—the personal flaw that they need to overcome.  Once that’s established, then it’s a matter of finding the real-world context that can present the right set of challenges.  For that, I usually have two or three ideas born of current events and start reading up on them.  At least for me so far, I see patterns emerging in the news.  Some of those often reveal an area of tension that would make for a hot cauldron into which I can throw my poor, suffering protagonists.

I have 6 cats and a Dalmatian (seriously, check my Instagram feed) and I usually have at least one or two snuggling with me when I write. Do you have a writing buddy, or do you find it distracting?

Funny you should ask.  I wrote this book in the mornings when everyone was asleep—except for my fifteen-year-old cat, who would always greet me, whether I liked it or not.  Most of the time she would sit reverently next to me as I wrote, like a little sphinx next to a temple.  I found her purring to be a comfort.  But sometimes, she’d start rubbing her face on the edge of the laptop screen in a bid for attention and, well, that would get irritating.  But sadly, my cat, Mimi, passed away last month.  Now I miss her dearly.  I will have to train a new one.

M. P. Woodward is a veteran of both US intelligence ops and the entertainment industry. He is currently developing the international distribution strategy for the upcoming serial adaptation of The Lord of The Rings.

Danielle Jackson on Taking Things in Stride

It’s time for a new interview series… like NOW. No really, actually it’s called NOW (Newly Omniscient Authors). This blog has been publishing since 2011, and some of the earlier posts feel too hopeful dated. To honor the relaunch of the site, I thought I’d invite some of my past guests to read and ruminate on their answers to questions from oh-so-long-ago to see what’s changed between then and now.

Today’s guest for the NOW is Danielle Jackson, the author of The Accidental Pinup which is the story of rival photographers who are forced to collaborate on a body-positive lingerie campaign, but they might have to readjust their focus when sparks fly.

Has how you think (and talk) about writing and publishing changed, further into your career?

I think there are so many opportunities for different authors to showcase their storytelling. When I first started working in publishing (way back in 2008), there was an ongoing conversation about “discoverability”—how do readers find books? How do they find their auto-buy authors? With the advent and importance of social media, readers can find exactly what they want to read at any given moment. They can find authors who share their core values and speak directly to their id, and books what can scratch any reading itch. 

Let’s about the balance between the creative versus the business side of the industry. Do you think of yourself as an artiste or are you analyzing every aspect of your story for marketability? Has that changed from your early perspective?

I have been lucky in that I’ve worked with books from almost every angle possible—I was an English major, I worked as a publicist at a publisher, I was the editorial manager for a review website, and I’m the events coordinator at an independent bookstore. So on the one hand, I’ve known what to expect throughout the journey to my debut release. On the other hand, I definitely have had to compartmentalize what I know—including what can go wrong!—but I also know that so much is out of my control once my book is available to the general public. And that is mostly what I keep in mind when I’m close to spiraling over some setback and negative review. It's mostly about balance, but I’m human! I still get upset over the little things. And I relate to the authors I used to work with way more, on a different level. 

The bloom is off the rose… what’s faded for you, this far out from debut?

So, The Accidental Pinup is actually my debut novel! But I’ve been a part of publishing for over a decade, and like I mentioned earlier, having worked on so many sides of the publishing process and book business, I have a unique sense of what has changed over the years. Considering when I first started working in publishing I was writing but not necessarily with the intent to be published and now I have a book available, there’s been a change in how I look at the things we all go through as authors. There’s a lot going on behind the scenes that readers don’t know about, and until they are in the midst of publishing, many authors don’t know about as well. I wouldn’t say things have faded per se, but my perspective has continued to evolve, and I take everything in stride and I try to think about things from a variety of sides before making decisions that could impact my career as an author. 

Likewise, is there anything you’ve grown to love (or at least accept) that you never thought you would?

I love the comradery among authors—especially among romance authors! The citizens of Romancelandia are so special and I’m glad to be a part of it. 

And lastly, what did getting published mean for you and how was it changed (or not changed!) your life?

Getting published is a dream come true! For as long as I can remember, I’ve loved books. I remember being read to when I was little, and I remember staying up all night to finish any number of unputdownable books over the years. To think that someone may feel this way while reading my book is amazing, and I hope I can bring readers the joy I’ve felt as someone who not only loves to read, but also loves sharing books with other people through my “day job.” I have such appreciation for the people who have helped me get to this point along the way and I cannot wait to see what is next. 

Danielle Jackson is a contemporary romance author, avid reader, lackluster-yet-mighty crafter, and accomplished TV binge-watcher. Once upon a time, she was a publicist in publishing and continues to cultivate her love of books and reading by chatting with the best authors in the business as an event coordinator at an independent bookstore and as the co-host of the Fresh Fiction podcast. She also moderates panels, interviews authors, and hosts a romance book club. Danielle lives in Chicagoland with her very own romance hero husband, darling daughter, and two tempestuous cats. For more information, visit https://daniellejacksonbooks.com/ and follow her on Twitter and Instagram, @DJacksonBooks.

Ellen Barker on The Balance

We’re two years past the “we’re all in this together” phase of the pandemic and two years into rising talk and social clashing over climate, immigration, and a host of other issues. Racial hatred is out in the open. “Truth” has lost its . . . truth. Fires rage throughout the western states.  And then the invasion of Ukraine, a nuclear threat. We need a respite, we need some hope.

Four months into 2022, my book club had finished The Personal Librarian, Defending Jacob, The Girl with the Louding Voice, and The Mountains Sing. Then we took on The Four Winds. “We need a break,” one member wailed. “We need something uplifting.” And she’s right. We choose books, fiction or nonfiction, that will inform us, teach us, get us inside the heads of people whose points of view are not our own. But right now we need to lighten it up a little, for our own sanity. We’re not looking for a beach read, not for book club anyway. But something with a little levity and a good dose of hope. I strongly believe in the power of the novel to inform by engaging our minds and hearts. The best novels make us both laugh and cry, and something about each one lingers. They balance entertainment—which takes us out of ourselves for a while—with something more. Something that raises the book above escapism and makes it worth dragging our attention away from the latest Russian bombing or U.S. school shooting.  Those books are what we need right now.

Fans of Anthony Trollope and Charles Dickens know all about this. Their Victorian-era novels take us right into the politics and social conventions of the times in a way that no history book can, because the characters and their travails and triumphs stick to us and we can relate them to our own times. Or think of Mark Twain: the mental image of Injun Joe dead on the raft in Huck Finn will live with me forever.  To Kill a Mockingbird is another obvious example, with beloved characters and beautiful story-telling wrapped around the stark reality of racial injustice. And The Red Tent, with so much to learn from Anita Diamant’s intriguing novel: fictional history that brings to life the subculture of women in male-dominated societies in all times and places.

Modern novels are just as potent. Alison McGhee’s Never Coming Back gives us a look into something many of us will face: watching a parent lose ground to dementia. It’s a tough topic. But it’s the daughter’s story too, and the daughter has a funky job and her own issues. Her world is populated with quirky friends and an amusing recurring Jeopardy! theme that lighten up the dementia story and leave us entertained along with knowing a little more about Alzheimer’s. 

In Allie and Bea, Catherine Ryan Hyde mixes a glimpse of teens in foster care with a crazy car adventure. You’ve got to love a book that has chapters titled “Rude Checkbook” and “How to Pet a Bat Ray.” If that ever comes up in your world, you’ll know how to do it.

In the category of “nonfiction that reads like a novel,” a lot of great new books are out there. Tyler Merritt’s I Take My Coffee Black and Trevor Noah’s Born a Crime are eye-opening with a side of comedy. Tyler, for example, takes drama class to avoid the gangs because he’s more afraid of his mother than the gang. Trevor’s mother saves money on gas for their VW bug by making Trevor get out and push the car when they are in rush hour and only inching along.

In East of Troost, I put you right inside the head of the first-person narrator as she navigates her new financial reality in a dilapidated house in a sketchy neighborhood. She talks to her dog, talks to herself, and is afraid of her own basement. She takes us out of ourselves and gives us a break from our own persistent worries. We can love her, laugh with her, roll our eyes and yell at her. But she also narrates the social phenomena that reduced her home and neighborhood to the rubble it isn’t quite, but could be soon. The ending of East of Troost can still make me cry, but in a good way, a few tears of relief—and hope.

Ellen Barker grew up in Kansas City and had a front-row seat to the demographic shifts, the hope, and the turmoil of the civil rights era of the 1960s. She has a Bachelor’s degree in Urban Studies from Washington University in Saint Louis, where she developed a passion for how cities work, and don’t. Her first novel, East of Troost, will be published in September 2022. Prior to East of Troost, her most recent publication is “She Gathered it All,” in Art in the Time of Unbearable Crisis (2022, Stephanie Raffelock, ed.). She has also published essays in Fine Homebuilding and the Palo Alto Coop News.